The article presented in the courtroom details Au Nuoxuan’s interview with “Apple Daily” in April 2020. It highlights the two factions that exist within the primary election. One promotes the parliamentary majority to advocate for the five major demands, while the other supports using speculation to put pressure on Beijing, even going as far as saying “I would rather you (Beijing) do the most naked, so you don’t want Hong Kong to have any illusions.” During cross-examination, Au objected to the English translation and clarified that his original intention was to convey the thoughts of those who advocate speculation, explaining that the use of “we” in English might contribute to misunderstandings.
Judge Li Yunteng inquired about the meaning of “fantasy,” to which the district explained that Dai Yaoting had a series of articles promoting speculation as a means of achieving goals. This indicates that even if they cannot obtain what they desire, they want Beijing to take action. The court-certified translation translated “most naked” to “the most horrible things,” leading to an objection by He Guilan in the defendant’s column. Li Guan reminded her to report this to the instructing lawyer, and the court would address it at a later time.
Li Guan also asked if “fantasy” referred to the central government’s sincerity in implementing “one country, two systems.” The district clarified that speculators did not refer to the political system but instead expressed their despair at not being able to achieve their goals. They wanted to use all means at their disposal to strive for a “breaking situation” that involved risking everything before starting anew.
The article presented in the hall is the report of Au Nuoxuan’s interview with “Apple Daily” in April 2020. The district pointed out that the participants in the primary election are divided into two factions. One faction advocates the parliamentary majority to strive for the five major demands, and the other faction does not hesitate to solicit speculation to put pressure on Beijing , “I would rather you (Beijing) do the most naked, so you don’t want Hong Kong to have any illusions.” During cross-examination by the defense, Au expressed his objection to the English translation, and his original intention was to tell the thoughts of those who advocate speculation, “There is a word “we” in English, which will make people misunderstand, including me, everyone has a way of thinking “.
Judge Li Yunteng asked about the meaning of “fantasy”. The district pointed out that Dai Yaoting had a series of articles advocating “speculation”, which can represent how those who advocate speculation think, “Even if I can’t get what I want, I want you to do it.” The most blatant, you don’t want me to realize my demands, you have to use some good and conflicting methods to deal with it.” The court-certified version translated the word “most naked” into “the most horrible things”. He Guilan, who is in the defendant’s column, questioned the error. Li Guan reminded He Guilan to report to the instructing lawyer, and the court will deal with it later.
Li Guan also asked whether the word “fantasy” refers to whether the central government will sincerely implement “one country, two systems”. According to its interpretation, the district pointed out that the speculators did not refer to the political system, but expressed their despair. They could not realize their ideals. “It also has a meaning to use all the means of their struggle to strive for a ‘breaking situation’. It’s about putting people to death and then being born again.”
In conclusion, Au Nuoxuan’s interview with “Apple Daily” sheds light on the inner workings of the factions involved in the primary election. The district’s analysis of the term “fantasy” highlights the desperation felt by those who advocate speculation as a means of putting pressure on Beijing. The nuances of language and translation are also brought to the fore in the cross-examination by the defense. Nevertheless, the report serves as a valuable insight into the political climate of Hong Kong in 2020 and the approaches taken by various groups.