The Secretary-General of the Kataeb Party, Serge Dagher, asserted that there is no dialogue between the Kataeb Party and Hezbollah and a “point on the line”, not because the Kataeb Party does not want to dialogue with others, and we have confirmed on more than one occasion that the country can only be built through dialogue, but we see dialogue with Hezbollah It is useless, as it talks to people without reaching a conclusion.
Dagher’s words came in an interview on the “Beirut Today” program via mtv with the journalist “Dani Haddad”.
Dagher began his speech by clarifying what was reported in some newspapers and some websites about a meeting with Hezbollah by saying: “I do not know how in a country whose dollar is 42,000 Lebanese pounds, and there are no services from electricity to water provided to the citizen, and there is no budget. They talk about this issue while it is funny and crying.” .
He added, “I want to talk politics about what happened and refute matters, and then talk about the brigades’ credibility and what really happened.”
And he explained: “From the end, there is no dialogue between the Kataeb and Hezbollah, and a point on the line.” Why? Not because the Phalange Party does not want dialogue with others, as we have said on more than one occasion that the country can only be built through dialogue, but dialogue with Hezbollah is useless. with the other to neutralize it, stressing that this matter could not happen with the brigades.
And Dagher went on: “On what conditions is the Kataeb ready for dialogue?” To answer: “Basically, we disagree with Hezbollah first about the weapon, and when it puts it on the table, we talk to it.
He continued, “If someone decides to impose the president and foreign policy on others, sabotage our relations with the Arabs and the West, and Lebanon becomes besieged and we fall into an economic crisis like the one we are suffering from, then why dialogue? Then how do we dialogue with a team that says it is a soldier in the Guardianship of the Faqih?”
And he stressed that on the day Hezbollah puts weapons on the table and when they are built and Lebanon deviates from external conflicts and exits the arenas and stops protecting the system because the system of corruption is the one that protects it, it covers it with weapons and it covers corruption for it, and when it is seriously ready to dialogue with the people then The brigades, the elected president, and everyone are talking to him, repeating: “In politics today, there is no dialogue between the brigades and Hezbollah for all these reasons.”
Dagher pointed to the media campaign that started two days ago by journalists and study centers affiliated with the party, talking about a dialogue between the Phalangists and the party, indicating that the background of this campaign is that I met with Muhammad Al-Khansa, who is responsible for the party.
He added: “I heard some say, why are you denying the matter, for Al-Akhbar newspaper said two things: “The Kataeb Party asked for an appointment from Dahieh, and that the Secretary-General met a deputy in Hezbollah, and this is what we denied.” Most of what I said was that we did not ask for an appointment from anyone, and that I did not meet a deputy. in Hezbollah.
He asked, “Did the meeting take place between me and Mr. Muhammad Al-Khansa? Of course it did.”
He explained: The scenarios started about visiting the suburb, and we can visit the suburb as we visit any region in Lebanon at any time, and then the journalist asked in his article, what is the social relationship? Explaining that there is a problem if he does not know what the social relationship is, and I confirm: “Yes, I have a social relationship, for I was for a long time responsible in the Phalange Party for the political relations through which it educates acquaintances and friends, indicating that his relationship with Muhammad Al-Khansa did not start today, but since Two days later, some of the media started reporting a conversation between me and him.
He continued, “My relationship with Al-Khansa is not new, and it is not the first time that I have met him.” The Kataeb and I have a sharp ideological stance with Hezbollah and other parties, but we have social relations.
He was surprised that he talked about the subject of a social meeting between him and Muhammad Al-Khansa, as this is a personal relationship that has nothing to do with the Brigades, in which he added: “We do not expect testimony from anyone, and the scenarios that were drawn are unnatural, considering that Hezbollah is disturbed by the pivotal role that the Brigades play in coordination with the opposition to accomplish the merit.” Presidential Council, and he said: “I am surprised how much effort this party made to say that it is talking with the Kataeb, and the whirlwind that took place confirms the existence of a political agenda against us.”
Dagher asserted that the Phalange Party does not wait for testimony from anyone, considering that whoever sits with the Marada and says we will not elect a president from March 8 and whoever did not elect President Aoun and confronted the Syrians, Palestinians and others at all stages does not wait for testimony from anyone in his credibility.
He stressed that the meeting was social and on the “top of the roof”, and said: “We do not hide anything, we have our history and we do not expect anything from anyone.” The beautiful one is the one who embarrasses others, and we are embarrassed and not embarrassed.”
Dagher believed that no one can decide that the region is exclusively for Hezbollah, as the suburb has the airport and Luqman Selim lived in it, and the worst thing is to say that it is not from Lebanon, and our visits do not end at Ashrafieh, as we also visit the south and stand with our Phalangist comrades there.
In response to a question, he said: “We told Hezbollah that practice, performance, attempts to impose, and monopolize decisions and weapons lead the Lebanese to desire divorce. From here we said, either we go for divorce, or you are ready to dialogue with the Lebanese on all issues.”
He added, “We will not accept first-class citizens and second-class citizens and sharing loyalty. Either we are equal under the roof of the state, or else many Lebanese are thinking of divorce.”
He made it clear that when the Phalangist Party decides to open a dialogue, we will tell everyone about that, and when Hezbollah opens a dialogue with the Phalanges, it means that it is Lebanon, indicating that the Phalanges’ strength lies in that it is comfortable with its supporters unlike other embarrassing parties. The price of our stances and steadfastness is blood, martyrdom, and leaving the government.
Speaking about the presidential election, Dagher considered that what we do is normal in a democratic state, by supporting a candidate who announced his candidacy and shares our convictions, and we elect every Thursday this candidate, namely Representative Michel Moawad.
He added, “The other team goes down without a candidate to vote with a white paper and leaves the session before counting. Is this normal? Of course not, and this is an intention to obstruct, we only ask the other team to tell us who their candidate is and to elect him, and when they do not nominate anyone, how can a conclusion be reached?” ?
He reaffirmed that the brigades will not elect a candidate from March 8, and he said: “We did not elect Michel Aoun, and we are not ready to live six years like before, and we are not ready to elect a president who has not seen anything,” because he will not upset anyone, will not be held accountable, and will not work to achieve sovereignty, and we will be 60 times. Worse than we are today.”
He continued, “There must be a road map in which the next president will deal with controversial files, including Hezbollah’s weapons, by setting a time period for handing them over, along with other files, such as the economic crisis, electricity, and others.”
And he considered that we, as battalions, will not accept and will not elect a candidate from March 8, and we do not want to drag the country into a civil war, but we want a president who tells Hezbollah that his weapons are a problem and must be solved, and we want a president who deals with important files.
And about disrupting the quorum, he said: “We ask the question and wait for an answer to it. Speaker Berri says the quorum is 86 deputies in the second round, and we ask him on which article he is based, and the constitution does not include any article that determines the quorum for the second round, so the election in the first round will be with a quorum of 86 deputies, and in the second 65 deputies.” .
He pointed out that we will not say today whether we will disrupt the quorum for the presidential election sessions or not, as it is not necessary to give the opponent a free gift and inform him of what we will do, and we will announce our position at the appropriate time.
Dagher considered that Christians should not feel that they are weak, pointing out that “it is not possible to continue with the policy of removing rabbits and installing fezzes.”
Regarding the candidacy of the Army Commander, General Joseph Aoun, he said: “The army commander is excellent militarily and was successful in leading the military institution, but if he decides to run, we must know his position on arms, the economic plan, and other issues.”
Regarding the head of the Marada Movement, Suleiman Franjieh, Dagher pointed out that the latter says that he is part of an axis and a friend of the Syrian regime, and asked: “Is he clearer than President Aoun?” Yes, we personally respect him and he is clear, but we do not support him in the election.
On the issue of the revolution and the changing representatives, Dagher mentioned that the Kataeb Party, its president, its deputies, and the fighters went down and participated in the revolution and it was a blessed uprising, pointing out that the revolution produced some good representatives, and they must work as representatives in Parliament and are no longer amateurs, as some act as if they are amateurs while what is required is maturity to deal. On every topic with those who think like them in politics.
He added, “The revolution produced changeable and independent deputies, and those who returned to parliament, even if they were corrupt, can no longer work in the previous way, because we are present and hold them accountable.”
Dagher pointed out that sometimes it is necessary to go to the streets, but the most important thing is the election, as the representatives of the system brought the votes of the Lebanese, who provided them with some services, and today each of us pays for them.
And he considered that the system lies a lot, and said: “When the settlement was concluded, it promised the people that the country would be a thousand good, and we warned of that, and the people did not believe us. .
Regarding the parliament convening to legislate laws, Dagher stressed that the constitution is clear, as the House of Representatives in the absence of the President of the Republic convenes to elect the president without initiating any other action, stressing that the Kataeb Party is against regulating the vacuum.
In response to a question about the relationship with the Lebanese Forces party, he said: “Before the elections, we said that we will deal with all the representatives of the people, and we meet with the forces in some files and in others we do not meet with them. Council or politics.
He added, “We are coordinating with the forces on issues raised in the council, including the presidency. We respect each other and each other’s opinions.”
Regarding the concept of divorce, Dagher explained that divorce is not between Christians and Muslims. If it happens, it will be between the independent state of Lebanon and the state of equality in which there are Christians, Sunnis, Shiites, and Druze, and the state of Hezbollah, which has its own foreign policy and connections.
Regarding the Phalange Party conference scheduled for February, Dagher indicated that the Phalangists elect delegates, and in the conference they elect the leadership in the most beautiful democratic process, stressing that the Phalangists are elected and held accountable, and the leadership is subject to accountability.