Airbus makes A350 lighter and more spacious

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Post from 03.10.2022 – 03:42 a.m

Of course they make it easy for themselves and they take the B777x – nobody knows exactly what the cabin will be like and where it should have really gotten something compared to the extremely narrow 10 series of the B777.
And the VLA B747 and the A380, where the 10 series was also comfortable.
However, the interior producers seem to be quite open about it
“By redesigning the sidewalls and fitting thinner insulation, internal cabin width has been carved out from the 231in (587cm) of the B777-300ER, to 235in (597cm). Four inches may not sound like much, but it represents a significant engineering and design effort, and that extra width gives airlines more design flexibility and scope for expression – something that airline customers have indicated to Boeing that they want.”And that’s all that is known. That somehow the fuselage / the isolation of the already loud B777 has become 10cm thinner.

Is the overall better? Whether 10cm – i.e. 1cm per seat – make a big difference?
In addition to the fact that a fuselage burst during the test phase is certainly not normal.

I really hope this squeezing of seats doesn’t really become the norm. The A350 is really good at 3-3-3, the B787 is again brutally squashed at 3-3-3, as is the A330neo.

Post from 02.10.2022 – 18:29

Of course they make it easy for themselves and they take the B777x – nobody knows exactly what the cabin will be like and where it should have really gotten something compared to the extremely narrow 10 series of the B777.
And the VLA B747 and the A380, where the 10 series was also comfortable.
However, the interior producers seem to be quite open about it
“By redesigning the sidewalls and fitting thinner insulation, internal cabin width has been carved out from the 231in (587cm) of the B777-300ER, to 235in (597cm). Four inches may not sound like much, but it represents a significant engineering and design effort, and that extra width gives airlines more design flexibility and scope for expression – something that airline customers have indicated to Boeing that they want.”

Post from 02.10.2022 – 18:11

Let’s not fool ourselves. In order to squeeze out a 224-inch cabin with 10-seater seating with a 17-inch “cushion width” (that’s about 4 millimeters less than in the B 707), you have to narrow the aisles to B 707 level (18 inches). And also narrow the armrests from 5 to 3.5 cm. Great!!!
Comparison: Bid with these same rows of 10
777X 28cm, 747 well 40cm and A380 around 55cm
more cabin width at armrest height. So you can let the A350 degenerate into a junk plane.

Of course they make it easy for themselves and they take the B777x – nobody knows exactly what the cabin will be like and where it should have really gotten something compared to the extremely narrow 10 series of the B777.
And the VLA B747 and the A380, where the 10 series was also comfortable.

That the B787 has a 17 inch seat width, mh. And the B777 is somehow between 16 and 17 in a row of 10, who cares.

Airbus is certainly not alone in this. And one thing is of course as clear as day: If Airbus plays along and really gets a 10 series in the A350, the B777x can deregister with the CASM.
Because the thinner and lighter fuselage simply stings brutally.

This post was edited on October 2nd, 2022 at 6:14 p.m.