2023-04-20 14:09:13
José Luis Espertnational deputy, affirms that a Alliance of your space with Together for Change: “Argentina needs a large opposition space to Kirchnerism, which includes the liberalism and that it be a very clear voice of the economic reforms”, assured the deputy of Advance Freedom in Modo Fontevecchiaby Net TV and Radio Perfil (101.9).
Over the years, your views on Milei have always been tense. Has the distance between you grown to a point of no return?
Everything is fine with Javier and with the rest of the leaders. Politics teaches you, in some cases, to be very flexible. I have always been hard and firm in saying what has to be done, but to survive in politics you have to become flexible. I would not say that our relationship is irreversible, beyond our differences.
My biggest concern is that Argentina will one day be able to do what the countries you visit do, when you have the chance to travel the world. I don’t think that Argentines like the idea of living in Cuba, Venezuela o Nicaragua. Rather, I think we would like to live in a country like Uruguay, Paraguay, Brazil, New Zealand or the United States.
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What needs to be done to end this nightmare of insecurity, inflation, tariffs, devaluation and taxes, is to change it. It is rare that one has to agree to do things well, should be natural.
In Argentina it has become a custom to do things wrong. Huge, deep deals are needed, and then people will have to vote.
In the Llao Llao Forum, you explained that having your own currency was almost constitutive of the homeland and you raised the inconsistency of a possible dollarization. Are you against any form of dollarization?
I am in favor of Argentina doing reasonable things, most of them are archetypal sensible countries. Of the 200 countries in the world, there are at least 185 that have own currency. Having your own currency is one of the first definitions of sovereignty. I’m not talking about the junk we have.
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Our peso, which was born in 1992, is one ten billionth of what was the peso that was the first Argentine currency in 1881. I think that you have to have a currency that does not devalue nor that it has inflation, but to achieve it a deep reform and an economic plan with economic opening are needed. You have to start trading with the world and stop using it as a debt lender.
On the other hand, the size of the State in Argentina is priceless and unfinanced. In many sectors it is directly a job, instead of being a factory that produces benefits for people. Labor laws in Argentina are unfeasible for the merchant who wants to hire people and we have to change them.
we also need a currency reform that prevents the Central Bank from issuing money to alleviate the fiscal deficit, something that generates a non-legislated tax that is inflationary. Once we have done all that and Argentina is a new country, we can issue a new currency. I would call it a Free Peso and it would be a currency free of union mafias, fiscal deficit and inflation.
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Is proposing dollarization populist?
The dollarization proposed by Milei in November of last year, in the Alejandro Fantino program, raised issue 70,000 million dollars of foreign debt to obtain the necessary dollars for that dollarization. It’s a TRUE disparate.
In the Llao Llao Forum, he updated the proposal and said that he would issue 35,000 million dollars.
I don’t know where the difference is going to come from. What will go unnoticed by people is that the banking system that Milei thinks implies being left without a lender of last resort for not having a monetary agreement with the United States. And his proposal is to completely change Argentine banking and go to the narrow banking.
This consists of a reform in which banks no longer take deposits and they are transformed into a safe deposit box. Citizens have to pay if they want to leave the money in the bank and, if they want to get a return, they will have to invest in stocks or bonds.
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The fixed-term deposit system disappears. Let’s stop experimenting with the people, who are already very beatenlet us do what sensible countries do. 90% of the countries in the world show you that they have their own Central Bank, companies compete, trade unionists are not a carcass as here and the State is of a reasonable size, which provides a public service and does not have a deficit.
Let’s be humble, we’re world champions, now it’s time to get off the podium and do what normal countries do.
That is why I was asking you if there is a definitive break between Avanza Libertad and Milei’s space, La Libertad Avanza, with the curiosity that both names have the same words.
In this sense, it must be remembered that when mercy he was with me he entered Avanza Libertad and when he left he set up his space with a similar name. It’s weird, but here it is important to get off the pedestal, we already won the originality world cup. Let’s do something that is already done in the world and is not discussed. I understand that, since we are half crazy, agreements have to be reached to do this kind of thing.
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Is the alliance with Together for Change on track?
Let’s go well, the idea is create a new opposition space. After making all the necessary reforms, a new coin must be issued that has the photo of Albert, who is the great hero who wrote the constitution of 1953which produced 40 years of progress for Argentina, making us the richest country in the world.
If liberalism is going to be incorporated institutionally, with its own lists, competing with those of Larreta and Bullrich and in equal conditions with the other components of the table, it is necessary to create a new opposition space. That is progressing well and there is interest from Together for Change in having a new space with liberalism institutionally within.
Fernando Meaños (FM): Does your Free Weight proposal imply removing zeros from the currency? What Central Bank do you think of to implement this new monetary scheme? We come from a proposal to close the Central Bank with which you at some point seemed to agree.
I have a note written in 1999, when convertibility was coming to an end and there was talk of the possibility of dollarize the economyand at that time he was already saying that Argentina’s monetary problems are solved by solving the other problems: competition, the state and labor laws.
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What I am saying is that Argentina must be transformed into a normal country without inflation. and then we issue a new currency. The plan is not to get out of inflation. To dollarize is to break people’s headsLet’s do what normal countries do. We have to be proud of having our own currency. In the same way that we fight for our right to sovereignty in Malvinas, let’s fight for the sovereignty of our currency.
FM: Would you support a proposal that involves the reduction of monetary issue by the Central Bank?
He would have my support and my request. I would like the President of the Nation to say on the national channel that the Central Bank will not issue a single peso to finance the Treasury. It is important to do so so that inflationary expectations in Argentina begin to drop.
Claudio Mardones (CM): What are the guarantees you requested for the negotiations with Together for Change to advance?
I see a great desire of Together for Change to build a new opposition front, which includes liberalism institutionally. Conversations flow and one condition is that liberalism has an important table in Together for Change.
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The electoral floors from which liberalism will begin to incorporate people into legislatures are being discussed. Everything is discussed on good terms and I hope that it will come to fruition.
Unfortunately, with this fight that has been going on since the announcement of the concurrent electionsThe talks were postponed, but we have resumed them with the same intensity and I am very hopeful that the agreement will be finalized.
Argentina needs a large space for the opposition to Kirchnerismthat includes liberalism and that is a very clear voice of economic reforms.
ADP JL
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